Answer the following in two well developed paragraphs:
How, in Stanza 7, does the bird's song lead the speaker beyond his
immediate surroundings? What draws him back to himself in the final
stanza? What does the poem suggest about the nature and duration of
vision that the speaker has attained as he listens to the nightingale?
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In Stanza seven the bird’s song leads the speaker beyond the immediate surroundings by foreshadowing the bird’s songs as eternal. I feel that the word “forlorn” is what brings the author back into himself in the final stanza because he compares the word to a bell. The nature and duration that the author is emphasizing from listening to the nightingale is forever or everlasting song.
ReplyDeleteAs I was reading your two well developed paragraphs, I began to disagree on your various points. I don’t think he is describing the song as eternal. Eternal means that it never ends and all, but I don’t see the speaker calling it eternal. The speaker is just calling it the same song. The speaker says that the nightingale has sang the same song since the ancient times. The bird sang the same song to the emperor. The bird sang the same song to some clown. The bird just sings the same depressing song. I also don’t think that the word just the word “forlorn” brought the speaker back to reality. He does use simile to describe the word to a bell. However, I think it is the feeling of sadness and loneliness in the nightingale’s song that he relates to and which snaps him out because he begins to see himself (“to toll me back from thee to my sole self!”). He sees his own depressing life when he was looking for beauty which he didn’t like. But then this is just what I think and got from it, and I may be completely wrong.
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The bird's song leads the speaker beyond his immediate surroundings because it draws him to believe that the song is immortal and will last forever. I believe that he is persuaded towards the side that time will pass, yet the nightingale's song will always last forever. In the last lines of stanza 7, he speaks about how the song creates magical things to come into the speaker's mind; how he forgets about where he is and what he is going through.
ReplyDeleteWhat draws him back to himself in the final stanza is the reality of his misery. The very first word in the last stanza is "Forlorn!" so he is basically remembering the misery that he was in and in the second line he clearly states that his misery and sadness toll him back to the reality that he is facing.
I believe that the poem suggests that although the speaker is soothed when listening to the nightingale, he quickly and subtly goes back to the reality that is his life. Although the nightingale's song allows him to drift into his thoughts, it isn't powerful enough for him to completely forget about the reality he lives in.
I agree that the song is soothing to the speaker. He wants to take it in as he compares it to a wine. The speaker's reality is dark and depressing and the song is something that can take him away from all his troubles. When you said the song isn't powerful enough to completely forget the reality he lives in, I have to contradict you. By the end of the poem we really don't know what the speaker is going to do. The speaker asks questions and is thinking about whether or not he should continue to live in his fantasy or go back to reality. If his fantasy is sweeter and better than his reality, than the song could be what makes him forget about his troubles. But you make a good point, sometimes there is nothing to console the troubles of one's reality.
DeleteIn stanza 7, the bird's song leads the speaker beyond his immediate surroundings by making him feel like the song will never stop. He starts off by saying, "Thou wast not born for death, immortal Bird!" He goes on to say, "The voice I hear this passing night was heard in ancient days by emperor and clown:" which to me is an example of how he feels the song never stops. I feel like his misery is caused by being away from family because of the reference to Ruth.
ReplyDeleteForlorn brings him back to reality. He remembers that all of this is real.
In stanza 7 the bird's song takes the speaker away from his immediate surroundings by almost sending him on a trip through time. The lines, "In ancient days by emperor and clown," and the way he describes the bird and its song as immortal show a sense of time. The song has taken the speaker away from his thoughts. "Charm'd magic casements,.. faery lands," describes the bird's song as mystical and of some distant and far away land.
ReplyDeleteIn the final stanza the word forlorn is what brings him back to reality. The speaker says "the very word is like a bell," the word itself is a warning to make him go back to reality, his old self, and the problems he is dealing with. As the last stanza comes to a close the speaker asks many questions. He contemplates whether or not the Nightingale's song was real or if it was just a figment of his imagination. The speaker is confused on what to do once he breaks away from the Nightingale's song. If his experience was all a dream he is questioning whether or not he should continue listening to that song or go back to the world in which he came from.
In stanza 7, the birds song takes the speaker away from his immediate surroundings by making him think about time. the speaker knows that time is short and anything can happen, but he compares time to the birds song, which lasts forever. He describes it as immortal, which time can be immortal. Except of course humans.
ReplyDeleteThe word forlom is what brings him back to reality, back to his real surroundings. This word as the speaker describes it is like a "bell'. Which brings back to reality letting him know that he isn't immortal like the song after all. While thinking whether or not the song was real, the speaker becomes confused.
Whether or not the song is immortal, I would like to point out that the nightingale's song causes the author to imagine strange depictions of fairies. The song causes him to escape his own reality as described "Through the sad heart of Ruth . . . the same oft-times hath".
DeleteIn stanza 7, the bird's song takes the speaker away from his current surroundings by making him feel like part of history. This is supported by the line " The voice I hear this passing night was heard, In ancient days by emperor and clown". The speaker is saying that the Nightingale's song has been heard throughout time and he feels a connection to the past. Even though the bird isn't the same as the one in the pass the song remains the same which the speaker is saying is eternal throughout time and will continue to be passed down through the generations of the Nightingale. The speaker is drawn back to reality with the miserable reality in which he is living which is brought upon after the Nightingale has left his side, leaving the speaker confused, questioning whether or not what he heard was reality or just his imagination
ReplyDeleteTime, and more specifically, the immortality of the bird's song is what takes the speaker away from his immediate surroundings in stanza 7. He's zoned out and thinking about deep stuff like how the song he's hearing has been passed down along the generations of that bird and how the generations of people before him had also heard the song. The chiming of the word "forlorn" is what brings the speaker back to reality. The tone varies throughout the poem'; and once the song is gone, the speaker can no longer tell if what happened was real life or fantasy.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Victoria. Time always seems to take us away from our own immediate surroundings, just like it did to the speaker. Not only is he thinking about the generations before him, but he also makes a couple of references to Ruth of the bible throughout the poem. That shows just how deep into a trance he went. When I first read the poem, I knew that the word "forlorn" brought him back to reality, but I rally like the way you put it.. The "chiming" of the word brings him back. I can make a connection to that as well because there are some words that can knock me out of a trance.
ReplyDeleteThe song of the Nightingale takes the speaker away from the setting into a blabber of some deeper meaning. He speaks that the same song (“self-same”) that the bird is singing has been sung since the beginnings of time, “In ancient days by emperor and clown” Then he goes on to say that the song is much more depressing by using allusions to Ruth of the bible, a woman who followed her mother-in-law to Bethlehem after the men in the family died. “Through the sad heart of Ruth, when sick for home, She stood in tears amid the alien corn” He goes on to say “the same that oft-times hath” which could mean that the speaker experiences similar sorrows of missing home. The speaker goes on to call the song as a window (“magic casements”) in the worst of times (“perilous seas”) that opens to a sadder and lonelier land (“faery lands forlorn”).
ReplyDeleteThen the next stanza begins by screaming “Forlorn.” The speaker goes on to scream “To toll me back from thee to my sole self!” and “the fancy cannot cheat so well As she is fam’d to do, deceiving elf.” The speaker says that as the song was drawing him deeper and deeper with beauty and all the synesthesia however he caught on to the trick. As the song was drawing him in into an imaginary place, he caught the nightingale’s trick that it was singing of him. The nightingale was dragging him into his own forlorn land as something similar to sirens sang the sailors to their doom but he calls it an elf, and evil elf. He caught the trick before he reached his doom. So he runs. He runs away from the bird. But as he stops running. He questions if this actually happened as if it was a dream so real that when you wake up you think it could have been a memory.
In stanza 7, the immortality of the bird's song is what takes the speaker away from his immediate surroundings. The song is so magical that he begins thinking about the people who've heard the song before him, and those who will hear it after him. When he thinks about his sad loneliness, he is shocked back into reality because the word "forlorn" itself chimes like a bell. The way the nightingale's song puts him in a trance suggests that although he may find some form of comfort in the melody, nothing will ever relieve him completely of the sadness inside of him.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Anessa. Stanze 7 is the stanze where the narrator describes the images the song creates for him. During the time, he was in the virtual reality due to the bird's song. Line 1 of the 8th stanza, beginning with the word "Forlorn" brings the narrator back to reality. It was a situation where the narrator tries to escape reality using the the bird's song. However, at the bottom of his heart, he knows that it can't help him, and he still has to deal with the problems himself.
DeleteIn stanza 7, the song of the Nightingale leads the speaker beyond his immediate surroundings by the immortality of the bird and the birds song and also draws him into his inner most feelings about his terrible life. It is as if the song is hypnotizing him and it is hard for him to escape its beauty. He describes the song as being heard in ancient times and he becomes amazed to how far along the bird's song has come. In this stanza, he is becoming hypnotized and "traveling" to another place in his mind. However, he comes to his senses and is drawn back to reality in the final stanza by him realizing what the bird is trying to do. It is trying to make him think of his horrible life to draw him into the bird's song and, again, be hypnotized. When he says "forlorn! The very word is like a bell" that is also what brings him back to a real state of mind. He uses that simile to show how the word "rang a bell" in his mind that it was not true, the bird's song that is.
ReplyDeleteThe poem suggest that no matter how soothing and calming the song may be, his mind will always set into reality. It is not just a fairy tale that he lives in, he must live everyday with challenges and trials that he is put through and try his best to get through it, not be hypnotized by some bird's song that will never really take his problems away.
In stanza 7 the bird song leads the speaker beyond his immediate surrounding by making the speaker think about time and the immortality of the song. The speaker says that in ancient days the emperor and some clown heard the same song, the song is never ending and generations will sing the same song. The word forlorn is what brings the speaker back to himself because by thinking and listening to the song he is drawn to a dreamlike state and then he is drawn back to reality and he starts to question the birds song
ReplyDeleteThe Poem suggests that even if the song of the bird makes him forget about everything and all of his problems his mind still knows that in reality the song can't fix any of his problems and make them go away
In stanza 7, the speaker is lead beyond his immediate surroundings by being taken through time by the song of the nightingale. He starts to think of the eternity the song has lasted. He thinks about those who have already heard the song and those who will hear it at a latter time. The world 'forlorn' is what brings back the speaker to reality. He then starts to question. He questions whether or not what he has experienced was a dream or reality. He wonders if he should wake up or continue sleeping.
ReplyDeleteIn stanza 7, the narrator of the poem stated that the song of the Nightingale carries him to different places. Under the song, he entered a different reality. The sad, depressing reality that he used to live in no longer exists. The hypnotizing effect of the song carries him into different sceneries, one of them being a image of past emperors listening to the same song. The song and visions kept going, until at the end he brings himself by to reality. "Forlorn! the very word is like a bell (line 1, stanza 8)" was the moment in the poem where he brings himself back.
ReplyDeleteThe first line of the eighth stanza was the moment when the narrator comes to his sense. Through the song, he found a way to escape the real world. He knows he can't stay in there forever, yet he enjoys the few moment when he does. However, even thought the Nightingale's song is beautiful, it is not a reality. His real reality is much more depressing and sad. He wakes up, and still derives in the dream, wonders if the images were fake or real.
In Stanza 7 the bird uses its endless immortal melodies to lead the speaker beyond his surroundings.He thinks about how it has also lead other people out of their surroundings as well, for example, he says that "The voice i hear this passing night was heard. In ancient days by emperor and clown." This means that even the kings and normal people of ancient times have heard this majestic voice. The speaker is lead out of his surroundings when he imagines the fairy kingdom or whatever it is through the magic casements, a.k.a windows. Personally I think that the speaker was in a state of slumber and then the bell in Stanza 8 woke him up from the dream.
ReplyDeleteThe bird leads the speaker out of his immediate surroundings by convincing the speaker that the song is eternal and never ending. His reality is harsh and depressing And the bird's song is soothing and helps him escape his own personal prison. He is convinced that the bird's song will carry on throughout eternity and he will always be safe within its grasp. He knows that people throughout the generations have listened to the song and felt the same way as him. However, he is brought back into reality with the line beginning with "Forlorn!"
ReplyDeleteOnce the speaker wakes, he realizes that he's back where he started, and realizes that he was just in a trance about the Nightingale's song. He also realizes the song isn't reality and wonders if anything he saw while dreaming was true
The nightingale leads the narrator to different state of mind in which he is convinced that he is seeing vivid images. "Charm'd magic casements, opening on the foam of perilous seas, in faery lands forlorn". The narrator explains that the nightingale sings the same song that is passed from generation to generation. He uses the song to avoid his sad, darkened world and hearing this song soothes him.
ReplyDeleteBut happiness is temporary for him and he comes back to reality "Forlorn!. . . To toll me back from there to my sole self!" The narrator wakes up and questions himself whether or not the depictions of fairies and clowns were real or fake. Finally realizing that the song perhaps enchanted him into believing he was happy.