- I will begin the review chat on September 18th at 7:30 PM
- To begin I need you post a comment with your gmail account only- this way it is a more safe and secure way of knowing who is participating in the discussion.
- I will begin by releasing one test question and allowing for open discussion
- Once I feel that enough responses were collected I will give the proper answer and release another question.
- I will continue to do this until all the questions are released or until only 3-5 people are left on the discussion.
Wednesday, September 17, 2014
Review session for The Catcher in the Rye: Test September 18th and 19th
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Here is your first question. Enjoy ;)
ReplyDeleteThe first paragraph of the novel primarily serves to do what?
The first paragraph of the novel is just to introduce to the reader that the story is a recollection of something that happened to him in the past. Holden says "I'll just tell you about this madman stuff... just before i got pretty run down and had to come out here and take it easy."
ReplyDeleteI agree with what Gloria said. The first paragraph introduces you to Holden. From the first paragraph to the last, his personality is very loud. "I'm not going to tell you my whole goddamn biography or anything," Holden gives you a brief glimpse at his background in the first paragraph.
DeletePS: Sorry for being late. Google blogs don't like me.
I mentioned the thing about the autobiography, and yeah, in the first paragraph he is just giving a short background story of himself.
DeleteI agree with both of you guys. The first chapter is just to get Holden's point across that he's only telling us what he wants to, but he's not going to waste his time telling us his entire life story.
DeleteI agree with you guys but I also think that the first paragraph is used to set the setting.
DeleteGood Gloria, you are on the right track of thinking
ReplyDeleteHolden also says he is not going to give his autobiography, but is very detailed throughout the story.
ReplyDeleteHolden is a terrific liar.
DeleteYes, but what does this tell us about Holden's circumstances and whereabouts? Where is he?
ReplyDeleteHolden is somewhere he doesn't like because he calls it "crummy." He mentions his brother sees him almost every week, so he could be close to Hollywood.
DeleteHe says he's going to tell us about the stuff that happened to him "...around last Christmas just before he got pretty run-down and had to come out here and take it easy." He then goes on to say that his brother, D.B., comes to visit him every weekend. The reader can assume that Holden is in some kind of mental institution for some reason or another.
DeleteIt gives away that Holden is alive at the end of the story and is okay (in a sense.) He tells you that "madman stuff" happened to him, like Gloria said.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure that "madman stuff" is probably some type of foreshadowing. He's telling the story as a memory. So, he would probably be alive.
DeleteWhen Holden says "madman" you're given the sense that something terrible happened to him. Like you said he is okay somewhat because he is telling the story after the fact.
DeleteOK. So the answer that I am looking for is as follows: To give hints about the narrator's current circumstances. It allows us as readers to see the foreshadowing and the details of Holden's immaturity and his possible disability.
ReplyDeleteNext question: From the context, the reader can infer that "this crumby place" the narrator refers to in the
ReplyDeletemiddle of the first paragraph of the novel is most likely where?
In some kind of institution, he also says he got "run down" so we can assume he means a mental facility.
Delete"Run down," could also be how Holden views the people around him at the facility, not the actual facility.
DeleteAnd back in the day I doubt asylums were very clean
DeleteYou can infer that Holden is at a mental institution or in the psych ward of a hospital.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Gloria and Anessa. I think he's in a mental institution.
ReplyDeleteYes ladies it is safe to assume that he has been institutionalized at a mental hospital.
ReplyDeleteI'm a guy...
DeleteYou're a fantastic liar.
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DeleteThird question. In the first chapter, the first complete shift in setting occurs when?
ReplyDelete"Anyway, it was the Saturday of the football game with Saxon Hall. " It was a pretty quick change of setting. He introduced and then went right into telling his story.
DeleteYou are close, but not quite
DeleteHolden starts out the second paragraph out by saying, "where I want to start telling is the day I left Penecy Prep." However, it isn't until the third paragraph that the first complete shift in setting occurs when he stops talking about the school and starts telling about the football game he wasn't at.
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Holden does shift from one thought to another pretty quickly in the first chapter and throughout the entire story.
DeleteThe first major shift occurs in the third paragraph when Holden starts talking about the football game with Saxon Hall.
ReplyDeleteOK, but how does the shift start exactly? Look for where he begins telling the story or changes what he is talking about.
ReplyDeleteCould it be the paragraph before that? He starts saying where he really wants to begin his story.
DeleteI agree. Holden begins explaining Pency and what a "Great" school it was.
DeleteDing, Ding Ding! At the beginning of the 2nd paragraph ("Where do I want to start") This shows Holden switching to telling the story.
DeleteI think it's where he shifted from telling the therapist the beginning of his story to his location at Pencey
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ReplyDeleteWhich of the following is NOT a logical assumption after reading chapter 1?
DeleteA.
Holden's parents are financially secure
B.
Holden's parents are reserved and somewhat detached emotionally
C.
Holden is very interested in sports
D.
The writer is critical of certain aspects of society
C, anyone that cared about sports would've been at the school's biggest football game of the year.
DeleteDefinitely C.
DeleteI think C. Holden acts very nonchalant towards sports saying "The game with saxon was suppose to be a very big deal..."
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ReplyDeleteIndeed it is C
ReplyDeleteWhen Holden states, "Now he's out in Hollywood, D.B., being a prostitute," he most likely means what?
ReplyDeleteHe means that his brother is a "sell out" or phony.
DeleteThat his brother is using his writing abilities to make a lot of money. He used to be just a regular writer, but now he's involved in movies and Holden really can't stand that.
DeletePerhaps, he means that his brother is a phony that just works and does what everyone else wants.
DeleteHolden simply means that DB is using his talents to make money
DeleteI agree, Holden is just saying his brother is selling himself out because instead of being a novelist, he is writing for movies or fame.
ReplyDeleteGood, His brother is selling out his talent by writing screenplays
ReplyDeleteIn the 3rd paragraph on page 60 which references the ducks, the "it" in the last sentence probably refers to the chance of
ReplyDelete...him knowing where the ducks go?
DeleteOne-in-a-million chance that the taxi driver would know the answer to his question...?
DeleteAnd the answer is ... The taxi driver knowing the answer to the question
ReplyDeleteOn page 60, Holden's response to the taxi driver's question of "Where to?" reveals his
ReplyDeleteability to come up with lies quickly. Holden isn't avoiding acquaintances, he's avoiding his family.
DeleteHolden's incentive to run and hide from his family?
DeleteWhat is Holden seeking?
DeleteIt reveals his immaturity because Holden does not want to face his parents.
DeleteHolden is seeking somewhere private, where he can hide.
DeleteWhat is it that Holden wants, but is unable to grasp?
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DeleteMaturity?
DeleteI agree that holden is searching for a place to hide
DeleteI'd say he wants to be accepted. Sorry it's taking me so long to respond, I'm doing this on a phone
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DeleteI have a question. If we write down the questions and answers can we use that on the test tomorrow, or do we have to remember it?
ReplyDeleteNo. You may only use your book and your annotation sheets.
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ReplyDeleteThe best answer is ... Insecurity and desire to appear mature. Holden desperately wants to be a mature adult but is insecure about himself in so many ways.
ReplyDeleteThe 9th question
ReplyDeleteIn chapter 9, the taxi driver's attitude toward the narrator could best be described as...
A. Condescending
DeleteB. Hateful
C. Indifferent
D. Jocular
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DeleteThe driver seems indifferent because he doesn't talk to Holden much other to ask him a question or two.
DeleteI think the taxi driver is more indifferent. He doesn't care. He just wants Holden out. The taxi driver just wants to do his job.
DeleteI think C also, the taxi driver isn't hateful, he doesn't even speak much.
DeleteGood C is the best answer.
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DeleteIn the paragraph at the bottom of page 60 beginning with "Well-- take me to the Edmont, then," Holden reveals his1. Desire to impress adults2. Desperation for companionship3. Maturity and worldliness
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B. 2 only
C. 1 and 2 only
D. 1 and 3 only
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DeleteC. Holden tells him to go to Edmont and then offers to buy the driver a drink and even says "I'm loaded."
ReplyDeleteIt definitely reveals his loneliness (2) and I'm guessing (1) as well because he flaunted his money. So, C.
ReplyDeleteNow I see his that he wants the company of the driver, Holden doesn't want to be alone. So I was wrong. C.
DeleteIt's C
ReplyDeleteC is Correct
ReplyDeleteHolden's comment on page 118 that the park "made you depressed" reveals that he
ReplyDeleteIs depressed about the fact the park is so dead, he wishes more kids were there holding onto their innocence.
DeleteHolden has a connection with the park, he remembers when it was nicer looking.
DeleteGood you are on the right track of thinking. What is making him depressed?
DeleteHis memories of skating in the park?
DeleteIn a way, but what is it about the park (where is the park) that is causing the depression.
DeleteThe lack of children and innocence. He describes the park as being dirty and that nothing was happening.
Deleteyes, but where is the park?
DeleteThe park was close to his home which caused him to think about everyone?
DeleteYes it close to home, but that is not causing the depression. It is the location of where the park is that is causing this
DeleteWhich of the following would be the correct answer
DeleteA. Is highly sensitive to the extreme ugliness of city life
B. Dislikes the commercialism of Christmas
C. Is sad that this park is the only place his sister can play
D. Remembered the park as being prettier than it actually is
Near his home and old school, which causes him to think about when he thought he was innocent.
DeleteC.
DeleteD
DeleteI agree with Anessa, D.
DeleteD is close. But which one is the one that shows and reflects how Holden feels?
DeleteIs it A? He did want to run away to live in the country in chapter 17...
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DeleteIt is not C because the park is not exactly a part of the city, but an extension. The city itself is the concept that depresses Holden because he sees all the disappointment and "Phoniness" of the adult world there
DeleteGood job Victoria it is A.
ReplyDelete11. The author most likely put "any" in italics in "It didn't seem like anything was coming soon" (118) to convey the1. Total dreariness of the park2. Extent of Holden's depression3. Depth of the sensitivity of Holden
ReplyDeleteA. 1 only
B. 2 only
C. 3 only
D. 1, 2, and 3
B.
ReplyDeletePerhaps all three? D. Holden is describing how gloomy the park looks and how depressed it is making him.
DeleteGood it is D, all three.
Delete12. The author most likely included Holden's comment on page 118 about the little girl's sweater being "lumpy" and made by the mother in order to
ReplyDeleteA. Reveal the narrator's snobbery in matters of dress
B. Create reader sympathy for the little girl
C. Demonstrate the narrator's perceptiveness and negativity
D. Hint at the conflicting emotions within the narrator
Dustin, Annessa, and Gloria appear to be the only ones left. If I do not have at least one more person participating within the next ten minutes the review will be over.
DeleteI want to say C. seeing as he was just describing the park's gloominess.
DeleteI'm here!! Umm.. C?
DeleteI think A. because he just said it in a rude manner.
DeleteIn a way it does show Holden's negativity, but it does not show him being perceptive. Therefore it is not C. And Holden is not exactly a snob so it cannot be A
DeleteD
DeleteD is close, but not the best answer. Therefore it is B.
DeleteI say its C.
Delete13. Given the context of the passage on page 119 (and the novel as a whole), Holden's comment, "I love it when a kid's nice and polite" can best be interpreted by the reader as
ReplyDeleteA. Symbolic
B. Ironic
C. Flippant
D. Straightforward
B.
DeleteD
DeleteBecause the girl Holden talks to is rather rude with him and Holden, still technically being a child himself is rude and obnoxious throughout the novel.
DeleteYes, his comment is ironic in the sense of the rudeness, however he really does mean what he says so the comment is more a ...
Deletesarcastic comment?
DeleteD. Holden always has a positive thing to say about children.
ReplyDeleteThere is actually a more literary element to this
DeleteD. Throughout the novel Holden always talks in a positive manner about kids especially if they are younger. We see this when he talks about his younger brother and sister
ReplyDeleteD is not the correct answer
DeleteBut like how would it be ironic if throughout the book he always praises the kids. Like he's always on their side, their always right or such.
DeleteA. because holden holds kids to a higher standard throughout the novel?
ReplyDeleteYes it is A. His comment is symbolic of how he holds kids to a higher standard and how he himself wants to be like.
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ReplyDelete14. The long paragraph beginning on page 120 about the museum is characterized by all of the following EXCEPT
ReplyDeleteA. Hyperbole
B. Concrete detail
C. Colloquial expressions
D. Archetypes
What is an archetype??
DeleteI looked up archetypes and it mentions something about human nature.
DeleteYes you are on the right track Gloria
DeleteSo is this showing an Archetype?
DeleteArchetypes are a set of characteristics that describe something.
DeleteYes they describe but they are on human nature an tendencies in human society
DeleteOK, but explain how it is an exaggeration
ReplyDeleteC. Because he is just describing the museum he isnt really talking in a informal manner
ReplyDeleteRemember it is all EXCEPT
DeleteD. because I don't think he is talking about human nature, he is just describing the museum and his past experiences.
ReplyDeleteExcellent Gloria. The correct answer is D
DeleteI agree nothing is said about society or individuals.
DeleteFrom the long paragraph beginning on page 120 about the museum, the reader can infer that the narrator1. Sometimes misbehaved in private life2. Is very perceptive of small details3. Appreciates kind, even-tempered adults
ReplyDeleteA. 1 only
B. 2 only
C. 1 and 2 only
D. 1,2, and 3
B. Holden doesn't talk about adults much he mentions them rarely.
ReplyDeleteEven so, he didn't say anything negative about the teacher or guard.
ReplyDeleteBut it seems more like he was commenting on them not complimenting them. Atleast thats what i think.
DeleteB. He describes details, like the Indian with the giant canoe
ReplyDeleteB
ReplyDeleteI think D. Holden could have misbehaved as a child, and he recalls the past with great details.
ReplyDeleteBut doesn't Holden notice some small peculiar things throughout the novel, let alone on that page. For instance the ducks, the organization of his dorm, and how the club looks.
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ReplyDeleteGloria is correct. Holden has misbehaved and acknowledged that, he is perceptive of details, and he does recognize and appreciate adults who treat him with respect. Mr. Spencer, the museum employee, and Mr. Antollini are some examples.
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ReplyDelete16. On page 169, Holden becomes "even more depressed" when Phoebe says "You don't like anything that's happening" most likely because1. The comment reveals that even she does not understand him2. Her tone is less than sympathetic3. He knows her analysis is correct
ReplyDeleteA. 1 only
B. 3 only
C. 1 and 2 only
D. 1,2, and 3
Would it be D..
DeleteB.
ReplyDeleteHolden realizes that it is true and tries to make Phoebe feel better.
DeleteB
ReplyDeleteB is correct
ReplyDelete17. From the two long paragraphs on page 170 about James Castle, the reader can infer all of the following EXCEPT
ReplyDeleteA. The incident troubled Holden because he identified with Castle
B. Holden admired Castle for standing up to the bullies
C. Holden told Phoebe about the incident so she would better understand his depression
D. The way the school handled the incident bothered Holden
C. Holden only thinks about James.
ReplyDeletecontinue this thought
DeleteHolden says he could only think about the nuns and James. He describes the incident, but it is only in his head. He snaps back into reality when his sister asks him something.
DeleteGood you are correct. C is the correct answer
DeleteOK, so it looks like we are fizzling out. If you are still there and want to keep going respond to this post within the next 5 minutes. If I have at least 5 of you still going I will continue.
ReplyDeleteStill here.
DeleteI'm here, I'm just writing my essay too
DeleteStill alive.
ReplyDeleteI think it is like only two or three of us left. But thank you for taking your time to help us out.
ReplyDeleteThat makes four. I will wait one more min
ReplyDeleteKeep going with Them questions
ReplyDeleteI don't think anyone else is coming. Thank you, Mr. Lear!
ReplyDeleteDaisy saved you
ReplyDeleteLife saver right here!!
Delete18. From Holden's comments on page 171 about what he does like, the reader can infer that Holden likes
ReplyDeleteA. Eating and horseback riding
B. Feeling connected emotionally
C. Making money and being successful
D. Recognition for doing a job well
Thanks, Daisy.
ReplyDeleteB
ReplyDeleteB
ReplyDeleteyes it is B
ReplyDelete19. On page 172, in the paragraph beginning "Lawyers are all right," the last half of the paragraph reveals Holden's
ReplyDeleteA. Philosophical depth and concern with motives
B. Fallacious reasoning process
C. Fear of being successful on a competitive setting
D. Distrust of lawyers and the legal process
a?
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ReplyDeleteB
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ReplyDeleteI swear I hate doing this by phone
ReplyDeleteOK it is not B.
ReplyDeleteHolden has the misconception that all adults are phonies.
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